Dating : Do women dislike men with an average income that much?
I’ve heard a lot of talk about HVM and LVM and it is sort of scary. Like if you make anything under six figures you are some sort of scum. How much of this is real when it comes to the US specifically?
Financially stable is the most important.
Plenty of broke guys do well, even more average income guys do well. The type of women who talk about HVM and LVM might go on dates with men don’t end up in relationships, they either grow out of it or stay in their bitter safe spaces, either way, you don’t need to worry about them.
For the majority of women, as long as the man can pay his bills and have enough leftover for dates, they’re happy.
Here’s some advice OP.
Stop listening to podcasts/YouTube personalities/self help books/etc that talk about HVM and LVM. It’s all just elitist bullshit designed to sell you something.
Stop listening to angry internet randos when they post their angry rants where they blame greedy women, their income, or whatever else have you while subtly dropping hints that they aren’t the sort of man any self respecting woman would consider dating by the way the word said rant.
The average, blue collar, working class woman will date the average, blue collar, working class man so long as he’s financially stable in that he can pay all his bills and still have « fun money » left over at the end.
Sure, they may dream about dating some big shot money man but those big shot money men aren’t in the same dating pool as them anyway so that dream is just a dream unless they somehow get very, very lucky.
Don’t sell yourself short because of your income alone.
I don’t think the amount of money I make has ever helped or hurt me in dating. I make a lot but I just never really bring it up unless asked or in a LTR
You need to go outside more. Attraction isn’t based around how much money you make. Sure there’s shallow women, but they are more likely to dislike men with ‘average attractiveness’.
The average woman like the average man is living paycheck to paycheck and average guys have always gotten laid
I mostly only date artists. One’s that don’t make much money. In all my relationships I’ve made the most money and I have no interest in dating someone that is materialistic.
I guess this could great depend on where you live in the country. I used to make top 5 figure salary and this was a lot in my area, but I know I could have made more if I lived in like CA…but would have paid more in other crap. My income was adjusted for the state I lived in working for a big corporation with employees everywhere. During this time I had no issues finding dates and getting into relationships. People knew what I made, but I lived very comfortably where I lived with what I make. The point of all this is that it really shouldn’t matter as long as you are financially stable. The kind of gold diggers or women with higher standards will date who they date.
As long as you’re paying your bills and not expecting me to be your mommy you’re good. Don’t listen to the scammers, dude. They’re trying to make you feel bad about yourself so that you buy their advice.
It’s very real, women on this and other subs constantly go on about how men are basically required to have a large income if they want to date them. They list off all these things about themselves about how they’re all so independent, bought their own house and have a large income of their own(which most of them got because their parents probably paid tuition and got them their job after graduation) and can do whatever they want and don’t really need anyone to take care of them etc
…And then proceed to require prospective men to have equal or more income, their own house or condo and must also be assertive, rugged, manly, but still emotional and sensitive but not too much! So they claim they’re self-made but then want a guy to still basically coddle and look after them
All in all, the bottom line message these subs send is that poors are scum and should stay in their own lane(poors should date other poors) or just don’t deserve to date and have any sort of companionship until they magically bootstrap their way out of poverty or homelessness
They do