Dating : Why a lot of us men fail
Most of the advice on here is guys who know this pretty girl, don’t know whether they should make a move or they hit it off on early dates and then she goes cold.
I think many of us men fail or get rejected so much is because our inability to use good social norms.
Lingering, being pushy, desperate, constant need of validation, too forthcoming and too personal to soon are all mini indicators to a woman you might not be that great of a catch.
Also as a man, we our plagued with this idea that we gotta « make it happen » which is true but it shouldn’t be at the expense of a woman’s comfort. Her body language, words and tone will let you know whether you get green lighted or slow your roll or don’t pass go at all.
Woman here. You mentioned some great points. I think a lot of men do have issues with social norms, particularly picking up on women’s social cues that indicate their level of interest and comfort. A lot of guys who could very well have a chance with a woman blow it because they make her uncomfortable in some way.
>Why a lot of us men fail
#1 TIP: Stop being ugly XD
None of those issues you bring up matter all that much if:
1.)You are attractive.
2.)You aren’t unattractive.
You are over thinking this, you fail because the sexual market place is more unfair than 95% of world economies:
[https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a](https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a)
One of the other reasons men fail, it due to their mismatched priorities and unrealistic expectations.
Build yourself into the best version of you possible, THEN work on bringing women into your life for dating.
Look in the mirror, look around at your life… Would you date you? If the answer isn’t « hell yeah » you’ve got work to do.
The end result is a great life for YOU. Women and dating are just a bonus.
Women pretty much have a choice of who they want to date and almost all of them prefer the same type of guy.
I went out with a cute girl last night and was pretty pushy, talked most of the time, was very open and forthcoming, and we still slept together.
the important thing is she had fun the whole time, and so did I. being a talkative, nerdy, slightly awkward guy is who I am. and trying to pull of the strong silent type doesn’t work for me.
but one point I always abide by is not pushing for sex itself. she was 5 years younger, smart medical student, and last thing I want is her feeling regret or feeling like she didn’t have agency. I couldn’t believe it when she said guys had just initiated sex when she was barely turned on… does nobody’s dad or older brother teach them common sense sex anymore?
The way you described women aren’t women, they’re females and get easily scared like animal pets. If you do something that makes a real woman uncomfortable, that woman should tell you to knock it off and then you’ll have a discussion with her about the issue and then you decide if she’s being too sensitive and not worth it or has a point.
Women are easily tricked especially by hot guys because they can use a couple bucks get some nice clothes, a chain and barrow his dads/homies nice car and look like his shit is together and get to smash and then she’s locked emotionally and he can do whatever he wants. Women will never go for the ugly guys because they offer nothing. Ask any real ugly guy and he’ll tell you that he never gets any cues from women… like ever even the ugly fat women who are cross eyed. 6/10 and up are women’s true goals. 10/10 being ideal and 6/10 is them settling because they can stomach his looks and he offers a bunch of other things she wants like money, less likely to cheat, he’ll be grateful she’s even with him etc. 4/10 5/10 can make some improvements but they will never get really attractive women. And the 1/10-3/10s are worthless and will never find a woman, they could do everything right and will get told “you’re not my type”, “you’ll *eventually* find a *nice* girl” haha it’s just comfort words but even then they know if you did find a girl it would be the crud at the bottom of the barrel.
Women care about money. Everything else doesn’t matter. Every bad habit of yours will be overlooked if you have money. That’s a bitter truth.