Dating : Always go dutch on a first date as a guy
A short and simple advice. As studies and surveys recently show about a third of women only go on dates for a free meal, so if you’re a dude who who is paying for bout of you on a first date your literally just trowing money away in about 30% percent of the time. Stop thinking that you might win her over with flashy dinner because you have a better chance of return on investem if you just used that money on the lotery. And to the women who will say it’s just the gentlemanly thing to do, it’s also the ladylike to go to the date to actually want and to see the person there. So this social contract is broken. Plus isnt a date supposed to be the first meeting where both parties are excited to meet and see if they like each other, and not just a transaction where for the price of a sandwitch you might gate a girls attetion for half an hour. I mean dudes if you want to trow money at women to show you attention atleast get a prostitute, that way atleast you have a guranteed happy ending.
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>As studies and surveys recently show about a third of women only go on dates for a free meal,
Don’t misinterpret data, about 1/3 of women have admitted to going out with someone in the past just for a free meal, doesn’t mean 1/3 of women actively do it
Sometimes I’ll even pay for my friends’ meals. Can’t believe they haven’t blown me. Waste of time.
Take her to ice cream it costs $8
yes go dutch but also don’t be that asshole who would ask their date to an expensive restaurant
Why would you ever have a first date in a restaurant? Just grab a coffee or something and go for a walk. At the beginning it’s about getting a good feeling for the other with both sides having an easy out if necessary
Rubbish. I highly doubt that many women would go on awful dates with people they have no interest in just for a free meal. I’d rather starve to death than spend an hour sat across from someone I’m not into. Many may joke about getting a free meal, but it’s probably in a “ah the date sucked, but at least I got free food out of it” kinda way.
Edited to add, In my experience, I always offer to pay my way, I’ve always felt very uncomfortable not paying for myself and whoever I’m with always ends up arguing with me about it until I eventually have to let them pay. Men moan that women never pay, but when you try they make a big song and dance about it, so I’ve decided not to feel awkward about it anymore, save the arguing and just let them crack on and pay.
Why are you just looking for a return on investment? I feel like that’s a gross way of thinking. Only go on dates where you enjoy their company and don’t expect anything in return. I realize it’s just my opinion but I would be so turned off. Like pay for my meal or I’ll pay for yours. I don’t love the Dutch idea. It just seems cheap especially if she likes you and put in a ton of effort getting ready. Learn to avoid that so called 30 percent which isn’t that high of a number. If you have been chatting and things are going well you should have a feel if she likes you.
Geez. Have fun. That’s the point of a date. I’m never going to bicker about something I earn in an hour or two. If I invited, I’ll offer to pay. If its Dutch, cool.
Is this a copypasta? Pretty sure I’ve seen this before.
Who gives a fuck. I pay for the meal because it’s the kind thing to do and because money is temporary. What good is prosperity if you’re not sharing it with others, especially those you’re inviting into your life and potentially building a future with? And if she doesn’t care for that and is only using you for a meal, bummer, but you at least bought that certainty.
Be more generous, life is short.
You’re the kind of dude we scared to go out with lmaooo
In my opinion the person who did the asking out should be the one to pay since they’re the inviters
To paraphrase what other commenters have said in other forums, anyone who applies ROI to dating deserves to die alone.
I always split the check on the first date. Solely for the fact that if there’s a second date it’s because she’s actually interested in me.
Dinner should never be your first date – that’s the real thing. Meet for coffee, a few beers, a walk in the park, etc. Who cares if you’re out a coffee. Dinner is far more formal, costs more, and carries the expectation of dealing with each other for an extended period of time – make that a 2nd+ date.
First impression is the most important impressions. Being cheap on a first date shows this man is financially unreliable. Again, truly, equality is important, but you have to look into context. This is about relationships, love, family, and connections. It’s not a business transaction. The day when man can actually gives birth, is the day when we women and men are totally equal.
I have rarely seen a guy pay enough for a meal to impress me. I don’t go Dutch either he pays or if I asked I will. I do not go on transactional dates.
I go Dutch if I don’t see anything happening
Prostitutes don’t give happy endings they just make you cum. Most rush
Talking about my own experience and when speaking to my other girl friends it seems like the majority of us let the guy pay if we are actually interested in him and want to go on a second date. Then I see it as a sign that he’s interested in me and it feels romantic.
If I’m not interested in him I make sure to pay my half because then I feel like the atmosphere is more like hanging out with a friend and it’s not romantic and it feels more natural to say that I’m not interested.
I guess this could be very different depending on the country though.
Invite her over for dinner instead and save the trouble if you’re interested in having a meal with her
Dinner dates are kind of stupid anyway. Like why am I spending all this money on fancy cooking things if I am just going to go eat food made somewhere else? Restaurant food is never nearly as good as my homecooked stuff. Come to my place and I’ll make you something awesome.
That’s what I do. I won’t give free drinks to a woman I’ve just met and will only be spending 1-2 hours with and never see again if we’re not compatible.
I’ll go one further and say do that on subsequent dates too, or you pay the full bill and let her do the same on other dates if she offers. That way you communicate that, yes, you like to treat her from time to time but you won’t be the doormat that will always be paying.